Aman starts at point zero. he walks forward four paces to point 4. he returns to point zero and continues walking back four more paces before he stops. identify this point

Each person in an it department of 25 people works on at least one of 3 major projects: system security, program implementation, platform development. 10 people work on system security, 13 work on program implementation, and 12 work on platform development. 4 people work on system security and platform development, 5 people work on program implementation and platform development, and 2 people work on all three projects. how many people work on system security and program implementation?